ZetaTalk: Aftertime Living
Nancy Lieder
ZetaTalk: Aftertime Living
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The Zetas talk about how there will be Government Collapse due to the Devastation and plans for a Carry-On
Government or Martial Law or a Bunker Government will be thwarted; what the future form of Government will be; why in the US a New MJ12 emerged and an Aftertime MJ12 will exist; that Live ZetaTalk will likely continue and even the Internet will be functional; and why ZetaTalk on Coast to Coast radio will be explosive. The Zetas talk about how worldwide there will be Devastated Cities with even the Machine Age halted; that stocks and paper money will be
Worthless Money, and how what are considered Precious Possessions will by necessity change and the Barter system
will rule. The Zetas talk about how offers of Safe Havens and Individual Preparations and Personal Decisions and
Rescue Expectations prevail going into the shift; how there will be Survivors despite the Death Rate; whether
Magnetic Pulse during the shift will affect humans; how to deal with Preexisting Health problems and Unhealthy
Environs; the composition of Survival Groups and if Group Policy can force cooperation, and why Small Groups are
best. The Zetas talk about how some humans are operating in Service to Others already, Guided in this, a Mainstay for
Others; how mankind will change for the better After the Cataclysms and there will be Great Opportunities; how the orientations differ in dealing with the pending Pole Shift and the Aftertime; whether an Orientation Test can be given and how Actions are a guide; when Sharing Supplies is advised; how Anxieties will be reflected in Aftertime Religions
and if and how the game Survivor and being Self Sufficient are related. The Zetas talk about who will end up in High
Tech communities, their determining Characteristics, and the Sorting Out process; how Spontaneous Groups will form and Survivor Allegiance tested, and where the Elite Enclaves will be found; why many will be Led by Children after
the shift and find What the Heart Seeks and why contactee Coordination increasingly occurs; how communities will have help in Aftertime Raids from Prison Gangs; how many will even share Hybrid Homes and the Cataclysm Link to the hybrid program, and what the Time Frame is; why isolated Hybrid Colonies will develop and how Intermarriage
with humans the hybrids consider their Team Mates will eventually occur; and how aliens will Walk Openly among us in the Aftertime.
The Zetas talk about how Quake Swarms and Pre-Shift Quakes and Meteor Showers and Imploding Cities and
Exploding Factories will occur during the Months Before the shift and especially during the week Rotation Stops; how
Dark Side Clues that the shift is eminent and the Scripted Drama about to begin; the Hour After the shift and how
Rotation Returns within a day; how there will be a New Geography and a Sharper Axis and Climate Changes resulting
in a New Climate and fewer Deserts and how Some Countries will fare; how the Prevailing Winds will re-establish themselves and being Downwind from ash avoided; how a Return to Normalcy may take several decades and why
Exploding Toads relates; how there will be inundations due to Melting Ice Caps with Rising Seas; how long the rise in
Sea Level and Atmosphere Loss will last; how a Nuclear Winter will not occur but volcanic Gloom and Drizzle will
descent; how there will be renewal of Natural Resources and a Rebirth as the Seeds of Rebirth are in the wilderness refuges. The Zetas talk how Human Health will be impacted and many will be in Shock and there will be Rotting
Bodies and Starvation; how to address Social Services and deal with those who Beg to Die; how Starvation will be rampant and how to achieve the Best Nutrition; how the Seasons Shift and how to Forcast Seasons for your locale; when to Restart Gardens and that Crop Adjustments will be necessary; how Flocks and Herds will fare during the shift; how life will be on the rebound with oxygen from the Ocean Life and Inland Lakes will often prosper. The Zeta talk about why Generating Electricity or Storing Fuel will be difficult and hopes for New Sources futile, but for some a
Perpetual Power Pack will appear; how hopes for a return of Civilization will be different this time, but Short Wave
communication will prevail and Magnetic Pulse damage minimal. The Zetas talk about how not all water will be Safe
Water but Pollutants outside of Industrial Areas will have dissipated; that Ruined Worlds can undergo a Cleanup; how the eventual Earth Switch to 4th Density will occur and what will be Left Behind.
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ZetaTalk: Government Collapse
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ZetaTalk: Government Collapse
Consider what constitutes the government of the United States, which we will use as an example, as it is indeed the
strongest government, and the first and foremost democracy. This government, by and for the people, is founded by
elections. Elections even in the best of times are difficult to pull off. Turnout is frequently low. Counts must be
checked and rechecked for accuracy, and computers and the ready hands of volunteers assist in this process. And then
there is the pre-election publication of candidates and their views, debates and other such enlightening affairs.
How would all this take place in a world having undergone a cataclysm such as we describe? The existence of
electricity will be spotty. Communications will in the main return to what it was in the previous century, by letter or carrier. The concept of legislature even at the county level would be difficult to maintain, much less at the state or
federal level. Add into this the fact that the geography will change. Some lands will disappear, others rise from the
seas. The poles will align in different parts of the world. What is north? What is south? Maps previously drawn up will be useless. How can the polls be sure who is to vote when the survivors will wander, in search more of others living
than anything else.
We are not describing a world where the established government is likely to continue as it was. We are describing a
world where new forms of governing will emerge. The type will depend on the nature of the group of people. As we
have detailed, there will be an increasing separation of Service-to-Other from Service-to-Self. Those groups oriented
to Service-to-Other will not require the same controls that are required today. Rather than the problem of citizens
stealing from each other, held in check only by the enforcement of law, these new communities will share.
Consideration will be the rule, rather than the rule of law. For those groups oriented increasingly to Service-to-Self, no laws or corps of police would hold the self-serving actions in check. There, the rule of law is supplanted by the rule of the strong.
How will the governments take being so supplanted? Will they attempt to collect taxes, order cooperation, or demand
allegiance? Some lone individuals will attempt to do so, perhaps in small bands, but where there is no food, and the
citizenry is essentially homeless, these attempts will turn about on the so-called representatives of the people. Where is the government assistance? What does the government anticipate doing for its citizenry? Why, when the government
was assuring the populace that they should not be alarmed by the approaching comet, should the populace now give
any heed to the so called government? Any attempt to continue fe
deral or state level government will in all likelihood
be short lived. On the local level, there may be some continuance, according to the competence of the local
government. Leadership will have to be earned.
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ZetaTalk: Devastation
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ZetaTalk: Devastaton
Note: added during the Dec 14, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Those fearing a takeover by the elite, military units used to commandeer control, need not fear. Bridges and rail lines will be broken, so trains or cars will not be moving about. Planes need runways to lift off, and runways to land, and if one is in place, the other will not be. Communications will be utterly disrupted, no satellites working, phone lines broken, and none but local communications possible. Fuel supplies will explode and burn, equipment break and be
unfixable, and personnel distracted or insane of absent. It is simply not going to be a mechanism that the elite can use, outside of their immediate area!
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ZetaTalk: Carry-On Goverment
Note: written on Dec 15, 1997
Increasingly as the year 2003 approaches [Note: see 2003 Date explanation], there will be sculpting of reserves in the US for not only the military but also what is termed a carry-on government. Those whose lives have been in government
service cannot imagine life otherwise. As the population would be likely to swarm onto military bases, demanding to
be fed, those bases that will be set aside for a government recoup will be made undesirable to the public - the storage of biological warfare components, nuclear war-heads, or armaments likely to explode during massive earthquakes.
There is no way for the public to determine which report of storage of undesirables is true or untrue, and we are not
advising that this be done. In truth, all such locales, whether the story was true or not, will be undesirable.
Any survivors close to such a military depot or processing center for biological weapons disposal or nuclear weapons
reserves will find themselves equally distressed. If the stories are true, then they are living if living at all steeped in poison during the Aftertime. If the stories are not true, then they are living close to former government workers and
military who want to re-establish a government. The rationale is that the populace will be better off with this
governance, so they are doing a service. In truth, there is nothing such a tattered remnant of a federal government could do for the populace that they could not do better for themselves. Naturally, the first thing these former
government workers will be looking to do is impose taxes, and without a money base, this will be in the form of food
and supplies.
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ZetaTalk: Martial Law
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ZetaTalk: Martial Law
Note: written on Dec 15, 2001
Martial Law is a device that cuts both ways, so will not be used lightly by those in power, and only if they feel they
have no other recourse. The threat of Martial Law is tossed about a great deal, as it seems an obvious trend given the
nervousness of governments and the power they hold in wielding their military. But this conclusion assumes the status
quo to be continuing. In other words, adequate food for the troops, and stability elsewhere. Martial Law can be quickly wielded to quell a riot, or quarantine disease, and is accepted by the populace. In these cases, the troops consider that their own families are being protected by these acts, and go along with the orders. The riot is being prevented from spreading to family and friends, or at least the soldier comforts himself that should such a riot spring up in his
neighborhood, the same means of quelling it would be used.
What would the attitude of the soldier be, if starvation were rampant, news of this coming from home, and the soldier
asked to protect the rich and powerful from demands from the starving? The willingness of the soldier to go along with
this erodes, rapidly. Especially if it is apparent that the government, the elite, have not been open and honest about what is besetting mankind. Desertions would occur, erosion of the troops such that the generals soon find they have
left their posts, leaving the defenses vulnerable. The military knows this, discusses this, endlessly. They have great
history to examine. The common phrase that an army marches on its stomach is a clue. This is known. One cannot
fight an effective battle unless the troops are heartened, and feel that there is a general advantage to continuing. Only groups of thugs operate solely for themselves, and these are not what the military accepts in its ranks.
Martial Law will be utilized only as a last resort, often dropped as soon as possible thereafter, and we anticipate only in those countries where the rich strong-arm the poor today. In those countries, this will be no change from their status quo, in essence no Martial Law being enforced. Martial Law is in effect today in some countries, for instance China
and Indonesia, though they would not call it such. Human rights are nonexistent, and the government uses the military
to support itself. To the extent that governments use these techniques today, they will continue up into the time of the shift. To the extent that these techniques would be a new imposition, they will not, we predict, be deployed. This is, of course, in the hands of man, something we do not control, and therefore could change. Britain and Canada likewise are
exploring their limits. These also are countries with a strong history of human rights and law. Like the US, we expect
they will conclude that such measures are counter-productive. The repressive will get more so, the democratic or socialistic remain so, with the coming changes not addressed in the media.
Countries are striving, at this time, to do the least that will disturb their populace, already uneasy due to weather and crop changes and a world-wide depression not yet called that openly. Thus, they will not rock the boat, but will to the extent they can impose Martial Law techniques without fuss from the populace, do so. Thus, the US has the Bin Laden
crowd not on US soil, and are not calling them prisoner's of war, so they can torture them freely without challenge.
Even this has not passed without challenge, and they have taken note of this. Thus, Martial Law in the US is not
expected. We anticipate, rather than a Martial Law setup, that troops will be sent home just ahead of the shift, to be
with their families. In this way, they will be disbanded, less of a threat, and more likely to assist their families than run as gangs. We anticipate that the rich and powerful will go into enclaves, with immense stores of goods, with armed
guards often gathered from the military. These will not prove to be a good setting, however, and will become the worst
hell for those expecting to be protected and live well behind locked doors. Thus, Martial Law will become a reality
only for those rich enclaves, where the strongest and most ruthless will rule.
Note: below written during the Mar 29, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
There has been speculation that the Iraq war was begun to remove US troops from their homeland, to lessen the
likelihood of a coup during the coming times. There is truth to this, but to only a small degree. Securing the oil
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ZetaTalk: Martial Law
interested is prime, and the expectation that the troo
ps would simply move to take over the Saudi fields after wining in Iraq. The troops are deemed an enforcement mechanism, thereafter, an occupation, despite empty words that they
would be resident only until democracy could be installed. These empty words are coming from an administration that
is busy removing liberty from its own people, as fast as the people will allow. There are many agendas among the elite, and where a plan can mesh several agendas, it gets faster approval. Thus, the invasion of Iraq, allowing reserves less aggressive to be the defenders of the homeland, suited more of the power mongering elite than not.
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ZetaTalk: Bunker Goverment
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ZetaTalk: Bunker Government
Note: written during the Feb 23, 2002 IRC Session, and added to during the Jul 13, 2002 IRC Session.
Underground bunkers where the US government expect to proceed as a carry-on government have long been in the
news. Mt. Weather was a shock and an expose when first discovered, as it was so well outfitted and financed that the
issues was more how such a facility could escape notice, not only physically but financially within the budget, rather than any other implication. Since its discovery, and exposure, Mt. Weather has not been the location of choice. This is, obviously, because it is well known, and in times of trouble the public would crowd the entry and lay there, dying and
stinking, complicating life at this facility. Instead, other facilities not exposed, and supposedly secret, have been
promoted. This includes, as is well know by their neighbors, a spot in Indiana, the prime location now. Near Kokomo,
Indiana, in the hills surrounding this small town, burrowing goes on as the shift approaches. Other facilities are know in the mountains of New Mexico, adjoining to facilities above ground in Utah and Colorado. Less well known are
facilities in Houston, which will be much under water but were placed there to satisfy the Bush family, who were not